for me----i did enjoy threesomes mfm---had my first taste of it years ago in w.a. would love to find a cpl to enjoy that type of friendship and company again (or even a women to partner in a 4some).
for me, even though you get the sexual satisfaction from it, i also would like it where i become good friends with the ppl concern, not just as one night stand, (but that cant be helped sometimes---if the other party lives in another state).
hopefully with the meet and greets i might get that oppertunity again.
agree with some of the views expressed on the subject.
its been wonderful reading
tony
most people state the single males should not look at my profile (boo hoo) Would they like it if all the single females were banned aswell? i think not!
I didn't know this was a swingers only site, i wonder what is the point of allowing singles to join? or bisexuals for that matter! Oh oh, are we in the wrong site?
on the other hand, as a single guy, I did find couples who played with me, just takes time and a normal sounding personal (not a rant) and I can tell ya iI'm not that well equipped, nor am I a pron star in the bedroom, but I am sincere, i think that helps, plus meeting for a drink.
as a caouple, we dont even read single straght male messages, and the single girls ... well they dont message us:P
as far as straight couples, they get ignored too.
This isnt a swingers only site (despite the name) - It states on the home page it is a coomunity for open minded people and consists of:
SWINGING
DOGGING
PERSONALS
Some posts can be viewed by others as feeling they like they have no right to be here. Please be careful on how things are worded.
We agree with much that has been said here. We play largely with couples but occasionally with a single guy or girl if we can find one. In fact we have a few single guys we play with regularly and the best part of this is that we can message a guy on chat and say "how long would it take you to get here?" The expectation is fun with everybody knowing that when he arrives he will be led straight to the bedroom.
So what do we look for in a potential playmate? Firstly a good sense of humour and it is this that often wins us over. You have to be within a reasonable travelling distance and we don't ever, ever play with guys who hound us in chat or anywhere else. We need to be won over and a pic of your cock won't do the job. So try to organise a tasteful pic and don't be scared to excercise that sense of humour.
And having said that, we would gladly welcome single women to play - there's just not so many of them lol
We try to answer all messages sent to us, but once in a while one will slip through. Swinging to us is having fun, not being accosted or pursued.
Mr & Mrs Fire
we agree with Firedragon2 some (many )couples may like to include an extra , that has no bearing on if they are swingers or not.
What a group of whining walk up nice guys who thrive in real life crap , you guys present as windgers you complain about how life is. This is a fun place and you take your right to fuck others and that they should be availiable to you, way too seriously, you have no such rights.
You have no respect or consideration for the other parties wants , what the fuck do you guys think this is because everyone doesnt want you boo friggin hoo .
It takes time, respect and effort to cultivate relationships and you guys just dont get it.
You blame everyone else and the site for your inability to get a reply boo hoo .
Why would you see your persona here as contrary to your real life success according to you, yet your single, not able or willing or committed enough to form or succeed at a lasting relationship no matter who you blame for that.
I dont care if your come back is its your choice, because you dont care that our choice is no single males .
And for the people who try hard to justify your existence, if mrs would like to experience a lady I am fine with that doesnt un-label us swingers or make the single lady a swinger she becomes an extra until she brings her partner into it.
For the record we dont seek single ladies either because it upsets the relationship equality.
As a general pretext, equity is a good basis for successful relationships, single guys complaining wanting a free ride with other's wives does decree any right of inclusion to those singles.
Unfortunately as they do contact the wife outside of the swinging experience, honesty is lacking more in single guys than any other group within this site. Experience shows that and its something we have to make some allowance for or we would leave the site as many of our couple swinging friends have done .
Whilst many couples are happy and willing many arent and thats just the game you have joined dont complain cut and paste and pick the teeth out of every syllable to try to twist things that your the best argument constructor or debater it doesnt further your chances , the more we see you guys complain the less your opportunities and if its all too hard dont play the game.
We have found it not all that easy to find a single guy when we have been looking , so many are all talk and when it comes to meeting all the excuses in the world state to crop up , have even had many that make a date and never show up
The last time we seeked a guy for a 3some it took us 4 weeks and countless messages to get someone that actualy turned up
So we have guys that complain they dont get anywhere and guys that get the chance at some fun and dont turn up
you just cant win
Melbcpl01
We find it takes a while to find a single guy, we dont look for a regular for us it is about variety.
But the excuses:
Can only play during the day.
Only want to fuck not have dinner 1st.
Sorry I dont give ladies oral.
I cannot afford to go halves with expenses.....Dinner / drinks and apartment hire.
Why isnt the lady paying as well? It should be 1/3
Not available the nights we want.
Dont have a photo.
Dont know how to post a photo here or attach one to a email.
The guys really have to reliase its a timing thing when a couple is hot for a 3 some, delay it for week or two and they will find someone else or some other fun.
Well we guess our snobbery is motivated by a quest for quality rather than quantity, LOL.
nomads_oz hit the nail on the head. Unfortunately their is no quality filter in the search settings. Having been on many sites this conversation is an old one, right next to the meaning of life.
The idea of this site is fantastic, people with preferences advertising those and having interested folk respond. Practice doesn't work as well. Getting tied up in definitions is all well and good however irrelevant to the original post.
These sites will never work effectively until the technology catches up and we're able to verify the person we speak to is real. I believe a contributing factor (besides uneven ratio's in gender) is what i call the "pedestal phenomenon".
This is where a person is subject to constant flattery and excess that they place themselves above others. When this position is challenged the challenger is opposed by the person as well as their followers. This is a normal social mechanism in regards to friendship etc, however on this site the main contributing factor to this is naked cams/pics.
Mostly single men will pander to whatever nakedness they see as if it were the be all and end all. Driven by lust and terrible hormones they will say and do all types of things in order to gain her attention, with the simple thought of sex as an outcome. The desire to have sex with anything is in direct conflict with a couples/ladies search for quality, as quantity can easily be obtained given the ratio's.
How do you fix this, simply you cant. Kind of like government, it doesn't work but that's the way it is. As a single guy you need to show yourself to be of better quality than the next, to stand out. Suggestions have been made however photo's and text in a profile has its limitation and I'm sure there are plenty of people that fall short in their profile as opposed to the actual person. In summary chose your words carefully and offer opportunities rather than demand, however do not compromise your own comfort for the sake of someone else.
Suggestion: everyone should release their lust prior to attending this site, see how it works then?
The key point is people dont reply at all not even a no thanks, so yes i belive that most of the people are rude fucking snobs, that have no manners, ive evan had a couple contact me and then be abusive! and you wonder why we get frustrated!!! after this ill withdraw my profile and add. Very dissapointed people, who dont repliey should be removed from the website. I have allways contacted every person that has contacted me, but the effort is just to much for these pricks.
Time to move on there bert. Some things in life just don't quite work out as we expected, now do they?
We appreciate the candour and sensitivity with which you have approached the topic at hand. But it appears that your summation was indeed accurate, and we will be the poorer for your departure.
Au revoir bert, for whilst your keyboard presence will no longer enchant us, the pearls of wisdom you have left us with, will endure for many a day.
Well Bert your a good catch arent you a well rehearsed answer sprinkled with potty mouth doesnt make your cause my friend .
What every single guy doesnt realise is as a couple we have been pounded by your peers every time we log on and after a while people become flippant and sick to death of this predatory behavior.
If we go on cam nearly every guy whispers despite our instructions dont whisper when we are on cam . but thats not the worst if say we are both on cam and mr is holding the chat single creeps make comments like" hey your man is busy i would spend all my time with you can we meet without him">
The main source of offense and lack of respect comes from guys who read your profile totally disregard what it says and want to play single of have the misguided belief that we will play with him , it seems and you only have to read a few profiles that no single men means you too dickhead. Some profiles say if we want you we will message you that also means dont contact us.
As we previously posted we dont care how different you say you are how clever you are at political correctness and twisting the situation to make yourself appear the victim. This is a sexual meeting and enjoyment site and people have preferences that doesnt include you, get over it your need to shoot your load doesnt entitle you, doesnt make you more attractive or desired by people who just dont want to change how they prefer there sex how they balance their relationship to accommodate this type of behavior. It takes a balance of lust life family friends work and desire and to a man you guys just dont get that.
Bert, I notice you did the whole "I like the look of your profile..." thing with us back in April last year.
Have a good long think about why we didn't reply. C'mon, it isn't that hard.
Why should we bother to reply when you didn't bother to actually read our profile in the first place?
Cya round, Bert. I am sure the community will miss you.
like i said the key point is even a thanks but no thanks is polite but this is something that the majorety of you poeple miss is manors!
an auto reply for messages would be great
yeah way to perpetuate the ignorance, I'll assume forum posts are read about as well as profiles
I have always taken time to say hi to anyone that whispers me with a hi, I refuse to answer people that whisper "wannna see me cum on cam or "you make my cock hard". I am not a snob. I am single and was brought to this site by my girlfriend and her husband. I have met alot of nice people on here single males included. These single males have been nice and are genuine people that have respected the fact I just don't wnat to be with a single guy right now after a 21 yr relationship with one. I took a look at aussiebuilders profile today after reading this forum and he sent me an abusive email asking me why the fuck would I look if I am not interested in single men. I have had 97 single guys view my profile in the last 24 hr period and I have not or never emailed them abusing them for looking at my profile. It is there for the people of the site to look at as is yours. I was just genuinely interested in why you were having trouble. If that is your attitude aussiebuilder no wonder you are having trouble. I have lots of single male friends on here and others that I speak to on a regular basis in chat. Some of those single males have play partners that would be happy to join in on some fun. Maybe you should try finding a single lady that can join you in couples play. Obviously you have been rejected alot on here but hopefully you can find what you are looking for or maybe you might have better luck on a singles site looking for single women on there if it isn't working out for you on here.
[quote="onlyswing4girlz"] I have had 97 single guys view my profile in the last 24 hr period and I have not or never emailed them abusing them for looking at my profile.
Thats not fair, We never get any abusive emails....pretty please can we one too.