I see your point man, being a single male, but I think there are simply just too many single men here and it really is a buyers market, so to speak, for couples and single women. For me, it doesn't help that I am not the slightest bit into cock either.
But yeah, what is frustrating is when you communicate with somebody via PM and there is not even a response. This is just rude. I have sent helpful information to different couples about nude beaches, swing nights etc and there is not even a thank you.
You have kind of stabbed yourself in the back though dude as people will look into your post and see you as a bit of a cry baby.
Just my two cents worth.
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why is everyone on here a fuckin snob
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it pisses me off
the "single" male debate
unfortunately as a single male you have a reputation and you need to put in the extra effort.
Go in the chatroom when theres the "single" male debate going on and you will see first hand how many couples and females think when it comes to you guys.
What you need to do, is message only those people who have "single" male in their looking for, make sure you read profiles to double check if they have written anything extra, always be nice and respectful, go to meet and greets when you can and just be better than the rest of the horde.
Not everyone is a snob.
and sexmad is right, when a "single" male starts complaining with no hint of a joke in sight.... just adds extra onto the rep you already got.
Warming the Bed
Hey Mate
We reckon the definition of swinging is:
Couples that meet other couples to swap partners.
I would like to see this site being able to block singles from viewing our profile
now thats a snob!its a swingers forum and swinging includes all regardless of in particular dogging is not by defintion single is however on this site and thats sad.
Warming the Bed
Agreed hotqld45,
As snobbish as it may seem, we dont see singles as swingers either.
It's a sharing thing, and well to be blunt, they have nothing to share.
So, singles are off our menu. Theyre just after a freebie.
And even if we dont find the right couples all the time, at least we still have each other. :twisted:
Sex God
Has been reading the thread with a touch on interest.
this site is about swinging, it doesnt state anywhere that its a couple only site, but all im hearing is that you have to be a couple, the way it started out maybe. but i dont see that, in this day or age.
Yes some single folks make it hard for not only other singles and or couple. but have been in a few spots, where i have heard the same about couples.
I will use this as an example, I love watchings drags, but would never put me self in a spot that i would do it, but that doesnt mean i cant go and see them and talk with others about them.
And with swinging, and my understanding of the site. just because im single or anyone other single for that matter. That its not totally exclusive to couples. It its an interest, i believe everyone, no matter is allowed to enjoy it.
In one way or another.
What i love about swinging, is that honesty and trust you have to have in the partner, be in husband/wife and play partner.
To me thats swinging.
for the single dude, Im sorry to say, some wont change their minds, on how they see swinging, but how you handle that rejection and learn from it. And not change in a bad way from it. Will see you get noticed. I know many single guys, in swinging, getting asked out again and gain, to meets and greet.. and play parties. Dont give up. Just find those that. 
enjoy swinging, for what it is.. fun
enjoy swinging, for what it is.. fun Sex God
but here a question.
Now we know their is a high percentage of so called singles and single males on all adult sites, no matter what.
but how come single girls arnt treated the same way as the single guys???
Seems couples... dont complain about single chicks, or not that i have ever seen, so im curious, of the reasons???
Me i see single chicks.. though lower in percentage then the single males. But they are still just that single.
Yet, i see single chicks get asked for often.
Warming the Bed
but how come single girls arnt treated the same way as the single guys???
thats gold!
Sex God
But getting away from the point. Me i dont answer all, messages. IE where folk are, not what im looking for.. and so...
And though i try and answer folk. It doesnt always happen.
Considering the email i can get.
I like more then an hi...in an email..
I like some one to work my mind. Before we meet, if i dont feel it, sorry to say, nothing will happen.
thats interesting
hotqld45 - is looking for straight/bi couples, couples with a bi female and a single bi female and they say:
We reckon the definition of swinging is:
Couples that meet other couples to swap partners.
I would like to see this site being able to block singles from viewing our profile.
Bns181 - is also looking for straight/bi couples, couples with a bi female and a single bi female and they say:
As snobbish as it may seem, we dont see singles as swingers either.
It's a sharing thing, and well to be blunt, they have nothing to share.
So, singles are off our menu. Theyre just after a freebie.
So when you say singles you are obviously not counting single bi females??
So therefore..... swinging is couples meeting other couples and single bi females.
Obviously females are never the cause of any issues or drama's or are time wasters etc.... especially if theyre bi....
If you wish to block "singles" from messaging you you can do so in your privacy settings
http://www.swingersheaven.com.au/members/my-privacy.html
And by the way.... all of our issues that have arisen with swinging have ALL been caused by females.
hotqld45 - is looking for straight/bi couples, couples with a bi female and a single bi female and they say:
We reckon the definition of swinging is:
Couples that meet other couples to swap partners.
I would like to see this site being able to block singles from viewing our profile.
Bns181 - is also looking for straight/bi couples, couples with a bi female and a single bi female and they say:
As snobbish as it may seem, we dont see singles as swingers either.
It's a sharing thing, and well to be blunt, they have nothing to share.
So, singles are off our menu. Theyre just after a freebie.
So when you say singles you are obviously not counting single bi females??
So therefore..... swinging is couples meeting other couples and single bi females.
Obviously females are never the cause of any issues or drama's or are time wasters etc.... especially if theyre bi....
If you wish to block "singles" from messaging you you can do so in your privacy settings
http://www.swingersheaven.com.au/members/my-privacy.html
And by the way.... all of our issues that have arisen with swinging have ALL been caused by females.
we haven't had any trouble from single females cause they very rarely answer any of our get lots of emails from single guys and all are answered and we have played with e few as believe swinging is for if your honest in your profile and you are who you say you are you stand a lot better chance of meeting on ladies answer your messages ,you just never know what you might be missing out on,there's probably a lot of blokes out there who are really nice fellas but just don't know how to express themselves. 
Are there such things?
Websters gives us: "a person who engages in the exchanging of spouses for sexual activities." If a person is on a 'Swingers' site without a partner; then aren't they just trolling for sex? They have nothing to offer except themselves.
We do like to have threesomes as K is very open minded and I am (light) bi. But to just approach a couple and say "Wanna see my cock?" does not cut it for either of us. Many singles charge at couples like the proverbial bull in a china shop both here and at venues such as Attunga and W.O.W. They expect results from that approach. Get real! It does not work that way.
Aussiebuilder needs to realize that this isn't snobbishness - It is life and he really needs to get one!
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thats interesting
hotqld45 - is looking for straight/bi couples, couples with a bi female and a single bi female and they say:
We reckon the definition of swinging is:
Couples that meet other couples to swap partners.
I would like to see this site being able to block singles from viewing our profile.
Bns181 - is also looking for straight/bi couples, couples with a bi female and a single bi female and they say:
As snobbish as it may seem, we dont see singles as swingers either.
It's a sharing thing, and well to be blunt, they have nothing to share.
So, singles are off our menu. Theyre just after a freebie.
So when you say singles you are obviously not counting single bi females??
So therefore..... swinging is couples meeting other couples and single bi females.
Obviously females are never the cause of any issues or drama's or are time wasters etc.... especially if theyre bi....
If you wish to block "singles" from messaging you you can do so in your privacy settings
http://www.swingersheaven.com.au/members/my-privacy.html
And by the way.... all of our issues that have arisen with swinging have ALL been caused by females.
1/Sammi we just checked our settings its set for "straight couples only" suggest u check programing of this site if others are seeing we are looking for Bi couples and singles because we are not and this site is only teasing them.
2/ AFF does block persons that dont meet your criteria,
3/ swinging is couples swapping partners and if the couple invite a single thats at the couples discretion......Singles can go after singles, Why do they do the cry baby thing because couples want to swing IE Swap partners with other married couples
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but here a question.
Now we know their is a high percentage of so called singles and single males on all adult sites, no matter what.
but how come single girls arnt treated the same way as the single guys???
Seems couples... dont complain about single chicks, or not that i have ever seen, so im curious, of the reasons???
Me i see single chicks.. though lower in percentage then the single males. But they are still just that single.
Yet, i see single chicks get asked for often.
We are a married couple swinging that is a couple wanting to meet other married couples with the intention of swapping partners for sex....thats the defination of swinging
Where did you get the difination of swinging to be simply a orgy?
Sex God
Quote by hotqld45
but here a question.
Now we know their is a high percentage of so called singles and single males on all adult sites, no matter what.
but how come single girls arnt treated the same way as the single guys???
Seems couples... dont complain about single chicks, or not that i have ever seen, so im curious, of the reasons???
Me i see single chicks.. though lower in percentage then the single males. But they are still just that single.
Yet, i see single chicks get asked for often.
We are a married couple swinging that is a couple wanting to meet other married couples with the intention of swapping partners for sex....thats the defination of swinging
Where did you get the difination of swinging to be simply a orgy?
Im not sure where you got the impression i said anything about an orgy considering i was asking why are single girls treated differently then singles guys.??????????
I dont see why I should have to clarify my choices in regards to a single male....My profile states that I am not looking for a single male, and yet get constant messages about wanting to hook up.
I am always polite to everyone and try to say Hello to all in the chat room. At times I may miss someone, but it happens.
I resent like hell when a guy comes into the chat room and says....anyone in Melb looking for some fun tonight? It takes far more than that to get my interest. If you want a girl to just roll over and throw her legs in the air, get a prostitute!!!
I've read your profile and your attitude stinks...yeah it's hard for a single guy, but hell if you're just wanting sex at the drop of a hat...go pick up at any pub.
If you are really interested in getting to know people here then seriously talk to the room....I think there are some awesome single people here...and have enjoyed chatting to them...if i was looking for a single person, then they people i've gotten to know would be the people i'd ask to join me...
Some single guys give the worst impression for the rest of you...but the attitude you've shown has done nothing except prove you are exactly what the reputation of a single guy is.
Quote by TheRose
but here a question.
Now we know their is a high percentage of so called singles and single males on all adult sites, no matter what.
but how come single girls arnt treated the same way as the single guys???
Seems couples... dont complain about single chicks, or not that i have ever seen, so im curious, of the reasons???
Me i see single chicks.. though lower in percentage then the single males. But they are still just that single.
Yet, i see single chicks get asked for often.
We are a married couple swinging that is a couple wanting to meet other married couples with the intention of swapping partners for sex....thats the defination of swinging
Where did you get the difination of swinging to be simply a orgy?
Im not sure where you got the impression i said anything about an orgy considering i was asking why are single girls treated differently then singles guys.??????????
Rose ,
We are not looking for a single girl or single guy, we are looking to swing that is swap partners with other married couples.
We dont treat single girls or guys any different, if anything the single guy better than the single girl because we both enjoy a mfm 3 some occasionly but thats not swinging we are playing with a male toy for the night.
We are a straight couple without insecurities about seeing your wife with another guy or another guy in the same room and find some Bi couples way too straight for us.
Again we question when swinging became a orgy or a 3some.
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you have changed your profile since i posted hotqld45
now you arent sounding hypocritical
Sammi we have not changed our profile go to
RHP Badromancefor4
AMM Lustietimes
AFF Tastietwo2
and you will see we are consistant we are not looking for single girls or guys or bi people.
We think you assumed, but in reality it dont matter. Like this site may or may not have a impact
on the way we play, its just the expectation that swinging is something different to what it is.
Also had a look at this sites swinging advise for singles and the 1st sentence is
How to Find a Female or Male Partner
For Swinging
Swingersheaven is saying to the singles ....get a partner
well i learnt something are not swingers but just people who enjoy sex with others whether it be couples or singles,as long as we all click and want to get it he end of the day most of us are here for the same thing and that is to enjoy ourselves and what that means depends entirely on each individual so call it what you thank the dude who called everyone a snob he just created some interesting discussion.
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well i learnt something are not swingers but just people who enjoy sex with others whether it be couples or singles,as long as we all click and want to get it he end of the day most of us are here for the same thing and that is to enjoy ourselves and what that means depends entirely on each individual so call it what you thank the dude who called everyone a snob he just created some interesting discussion.
This site supplies the definition of a swinger
SWINGING
Social-sexual relational recreation among men and women. It is primarily a couple oriented activity but single men and women sometimes are involved.
Think it sums it up quite nicely, Its a couples game and sometimes couples may involve singles.
My point is whats stopping the singles from hooking up with other singles then they can swing with
couples....Thats how we see the rules of the game. Not having a cry because couples wont accommadate singles.
Cheers
Forum Virgin
Quote by TheRose
but here a question.
Now we know their is a high percentage of so called singles and single males on all adult sites, no matter what.
but how come single girls arnt treated the same way as the single guys???
Seems couples... dont complain about single chicks, or not that i have ever seen, so im curious, of the reasons???
Me i see single chicks.. though lower in percentage then the single males. But they are still just that single.
Yet, i see single chicks get asked for often.
From my experience (and we are new to this), single females dont whispa me outta nowhere and tell me to get my tits out and to stand up and show them my privates. Can honestly say not one single Female has done that. Single guys? Well there's not a night that goes by when I cam and get that message from at least a few of them (not all). We have had the opportunity to speak with a few single guys who are respectful, kind and basically full of fun. We've also changed our profile so it states clearly no single men. We came to this site to learn and to play with another couple because thats what we feel comfortable with. The opportunity to swing and have fun is something that we as a couple want to do together.
As a new single guy here, have found this site great have been very lucky to have already had the pleasure of meeting a lovely single lady from here.
People are just looking for different things and as a single guy on here you need to use your brain, be polite, respectful, learn the rules of chatting/whispers etc and just well..be nice (mmm a bit like real life!).
Single guys need to let go of their dicks so tightly and let a little blood go to the brain.....
Aussiebuilder,
We have similiar problems to you 90% of couples will be no go for us and imagine for you to.
The majority of couples will have a Bi wife the reasons for this can be two:
1/ The wife is truely bi and bi girl play is why she plays.
2/ The husband has a fantasy of fmf or does not want other guys screwing his wife and is insecure around other males.
Both these reasons will knock you out as well as us being a straight couple and not looking for same sex play, we have turned away two single females in the last 10 days.
So for you to have a head start maybe a couple with a bi guy but then if you declare yourself Bi you are liable to scare straight couples off!. Cant win can you!
You have the two options the same as us, Hook up with a single girl who wants to swing and then approach other couples as a couple.
When we swing its for variety, the wife is having sex with a new guy and the husband is having sex with a new lady both are getting variety, a single guy the husband is missing on the variety no new lady for him so you cant say couples swinging should swing with singles because then someone in the couple is missing out unless they are bi sexual.
But occasionally a mfm 3 some is great fun.
We do not object to a polite message with a photo we may not answer but when we decide a mfm 3 some is due we will look back thru messages. Maybe get a list together and follow up every couple months.
Chat rooms I would give a miss and spend your time messageing, look at the ladies age and anymore than 10-15 years older you run the risk of her saying...I have a son nearly age it would not feel right. So dont message ladies 15 yrs older unless you enjoy rejection. We have similiar age rules when we message couples the youngest no more than 4 yrs younger than the wife and no more than 4 years older than the husband, add on complications like no one puts their real age down!
We may feel like playing and it may take us 10 weeks to find a compatable couple heaps of messages unanswered and heaps of rejections and we dont think we are that ugly! But we have our criteria and rules too and we have rejected two couples recently because they are too young in our mind.
Spread your wings wider as well.
Dont think we are snobs because we wont fuck with you, its just everyones choice who when etc.
Good Luck
you guys make it sound like a business not a fun experince at all i mean yes u have to have std's of course but all that to have a bit of fun with someone single or couple is just not appealing at all,yes i do understand what ur say aswell but i just want to meet people and its imossible to even get a hello with most now seeing as we have used all this enrgy on this i doubt ill get any one want to chat after they have read it all in the posts
Sorry Mate obviously you thought swinging is having sex with everyone elses wives and sadly swingers do have expectations from you.
Swinging is not a free for all orgy, We are not hanging out for others to have sex with!
Sorry Mate obviously you thought swinging is having sex with everyone elses wives and sadly swingers do have expectations from you.
Swinging is not a free for all orgy, We are not hanging out for others to have sex with!
