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Just an example of why many single guys are ignored:
(Seriously - this is just plain lazy, and earns single guys a bad name)
INBOX:
hii i loved yr profile are you couples keen to play with mee i am frm parra
You loved the profile? Did you actually read it?
no i dnt have time to read it i only look at the fotos
Dude, There are no photos on our profile...

Not to mention the many other messages from people who have never bothered to actually read our profile, yet think they have something we must want....
TIP: Guys, get a clue. Read profiles BEFORE you send messages telling others how big your cock is, how long you can fuck and other stories of what a sexual god you are.
Sorry - but just a little cranky here.
i wouldnt have thought you'd have access for single men to message you, i only recetly located the pricavy options to limit incoming messages - suggestion
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i wouldnt have thought you'd have access for single men to message you, i only recetly located the pricavy options to limit incoming messages - suggestion

Why should single guys be blocked? We're all adults here and sometimes we like messages from single males who are friends. Like VoyeurCouple we find it frustrating that some can only look at our pictures and make assumptions that we must be so horny that we're just sitting waiting for incoming messages from "sex gods" (ha ha loved that one VoyeurCouple).
I really wish people would read. It would save everyone a lot of time.
Yep, agree 100%. C'mon guys, you know that sex appeal is as much brain than brawn....if not more!..... so try saying something more than " Hiya Sexy"
thats a fair comment, however to alleviate further distress perhaps a more appropriate private network should be used for friends where you've already exchanged email or other contact details. Any of you who have been on any other sites know this is not a new problem, you can either allow yourself to be a victim of and do nothing. Or put things in place to mitigate that annoyance, its not going away.
couples people express that they want something of a particular kind, and you justify the behavior and suggest everyone should change there settings to allow rude and assumptive sex gods to be weeded out , at the expense of their personal friends . Really its justification and its the war cry of single guy, how about this, how about "no means no" and single guys show some respect for that rule in the sexual community. Its not for everyone else to have to filter and accommodate these guys, it is for these guys to mature and get some social graces, no matter how inevitable dickheads may be. People have a right to freedom and personal preference without changing the world cause dickheads cant play by the rules.
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Yep, agree 100%. C'mon guys, you know that sex appeal is as much brain than brawn....if not more!..... so try saying something more than " Hiya Sexy"

Couldn't agree more. I do read profiles and my messages, I believe are honest and usually just letting the people know I would like to meet them.
We are all adults and there is enough filtering already. What if you want to send a message to someone, just to pay them a compliment. There are other reasons for communicating with people on here. It is possible to become friends with people even if you are not sexually compatible.
hey vouyer i do see what your saying that people need to raise the bar for themselves to the standards you mentioned above. However that will not happen in either of our lifetimes, so its a case of toleration or mitigation. and you've also stated i justifified their behaviour. I've done nothing of the sort, dont confuse justified with plausible reason. People do things for a reason whether they realise it or not discussion in relation to why these people do, dont do or otherwise is aimed at broadening the issue to find the core. I can rationaise why someone would murder however this hypothesis does not make their action justified. And to clarify i'm not having a dig or a go, I'm just speaking having a chat, I'm more interested in reducing the problem and increasing success in the site.
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Its not for everyone else to have to filter and accommodate these guys, it is for these guys to mature and get some social graces, no matter how inevitable dickheads may be.
People have a right to freedom and personal preference without changing the world cause dickheads cant play by the rules.

lol, juz ignore em
or report them to the dickhead police ?
or alternatively, get real mad an kick sh!t out of the cat :twisted:
agree with you jim
Reading, spelling, sex, so much to learn in life. If they are no good in the first two, then they wont know any thing about the last.
with everything you need to invest time getting to know people. And you cannot assume that a few words alone and naked pic will work .. especially if you are a guy it really is harder but you can meet some nice people and have some fun if you are honest, well mannered, friendly, not pushy and are simply yourself. Getting to the meet and greets helps but from the one I organised the males do not turn up after all the talk ... but with every internet site you cannot believe what you see and hear to be true on just face value. You can however after a while form some friends and have some fun ... I know I have been lucky enough to. Maybe it is also being older and wiser .. if only I knew in the past what I know now .. such is life smile
We have spent a bit of time and thought on our profile and ad and what have you... and we have a really good giggle between ourselves when we get a message with limited info or attrocious spelling. What attracts us to a particular single guy is an obvious sense of humour and a pic... Even better if it's NOT a willy pic...
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Just an example of why many single guys are ignored:
(Seriously - this is just plain lazy, and earns single guys a bad name)
INBOX:
hii i loved yr profile are you couples keen to play with mee i am frm parra
You loved the profile? Did you actually read it?
no i dnt have time to read it i only look at the fotos
Dude, There are no photos on our profile...

Not to mention the many other messages from people who have never bothered to actually read our profile, yet think they have something we must want....
TIP: Guys, get a clue. Read profiles BEFORE you send messages telling others how big your cock is, how long you can fuck and other stories of what a sexual god you are.
Sorry - but just a little cranky here.
Hahaha, dude chilllax... You are talking to me, I am a "new single guy" you sound like my mum! If I or we " new single guys" want to tell you how big my cock is or how I long I can last, I believe no one has the right to tell me how to communicate. dude you are a member of a swinger website, you have told the world you like people watching you fuck your partner. The main purpose of this website is to make people find other people to fuck. Don't give me that bullshit about friends. Yes you make friends, with the intension of fucking later. get of your high horse. If you are a player, don't hate the game.
Sorry - but just a little cranky here.
Latintoyboy1978 - you are missing the point completely. We are offering a suggestion to single guys, who have been complaining that they are being ignored by couples.
It's up to them what they do with that advice.
When you take the time to go back through the forum, you will see this issue has come up a number of times. Here's a couple of more recent examples:
http://www.swingersheaven.com.au/eNs1BTJYzaHModjS
http://www.swingersheaven.com.au/KjszrUrafm7tyEvP
We are not on our high horse. We are pointing out that we get many messages from single guys who haven't bothered to either read our profile - or think that because we like public voyeurism, we will invite them whenever we go out. There is nothing in our profile that even implies that. By their actions, they are showing no respect for the couple in question. If they don't show respect on this level, what respect are they likely to show if they turned up to watch us play?
Guys are free to message us all they want. That's their right. But they can't then turn around and complain - as many do - that their messages are ignored.
You acknowledge you are a newbie here, which is great. Always good to see new people joining this community. But please, before you jump to the defensive over an issue which has been around for quite some time - long before you joined this site - understand that a little respect is a powerful thing.
Mate you are so far from the mark, just because we are on this site or others and tell the world, as you put it what we do or want doesnt make it an open invitation to you, to bulldoze your way into our inbox. With expectations of your version and cheap implications of what our profiles say. You still have to, as in real life make an effort and win us over offer us something equitable to our relationship or why would you get the time of day from us. I will say it again , If your not what we want and you only have a cock to offer why would we give you the time of day if we say we expect more ?? Time to grow up swingers sites arent a place for easy roots, you think you joined your entitled to a fuck? Not here, not with the people we know personally and not with the overwhelming members we chat to, you are getting first hand advice here and your too immature and full of your own self importance to see it. Nothing you said in your post is either the truth or a very realistic outlook on what happens on a diverse site like this. Your expectation exceed your ability to meet the market requirements you may be hung and may be something special but you fail to impress and get this across to prospective couples if you ignore what they have to say. I do notice a great increase in single girls on here these days maybe they have other issues that keep your demeanor in favor why not try that , we think you have blown the couples market and would warn that single girls have thir pick of the bunch number wise and make even more demands on their partners. Lets see how much success you have over the next few months . It wont be with us or likely anyone we know however the world is full of all sorts of folks we hope you find your type.
thats the funniest thing I ever read. unlike alot of the couples here, we havent put alot of thought into our profile, funny thing is we still get the pre required message a day from straight single men, normally we just ignore it, saving the hassle but now I am wondering if we should reply to these poor lost souls who are just "playing the game", wonder if they like anal, receiving I mean biggrin anyhow back to perving ...
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Mate you are so far from the mark, just because we are on this site or others and tell the world, as you put it what we do or want doesnt make it an open invitation to you, to bulldoze your way into our inbox.
With expectations of your version and cheap implications of what our profiles say. You still have to, as in real life make an effort and win us over offer us something equitable to our relationship or why would you get the time of day from us.
I will say it again , If your not what we want and you only have a cock to offer why would we give you the time of day if we say we expect more ??
Time to grow up swingers sites arent a place for easy roots, you think you joined your entitled to a fuck?
Not here, not with the people we know personally and not with the overwhelming members we chat to, you are getting first hand advice here and your too immature and full of your own self importance to see it.
Nothing you said in your post is either the truth or a very realistic outlook on what happens on a diverse site like this.
Your expectation exceed your ability to meet the market requirements you may be hung and may be something special but you fail to impress and get this across to prospective couples if you ignore what they have to say.
I do notice a great increase in single girls on here these days maybe they have other issues that keep your demeanor in favor why not try that , we think you have blown the couples market and would warn that single girls have thir pick of the bunch number wise and make even more demands on their partners.
Lets see how much success you have over the next few months .
It wont be with us or likely anyone we know however the world is full of all sorts of folks we hope you find your type.

Another one that sounds just like my mother.
Aussiebuilder. Right on the money. If I want it to be nice and make friends and hold hands, I would be using Facebook! This is a meet for sex site. And "some" couples like the ones that have replied on this forum can't admit that all they are looking for is sex, and tell stories about friendship. The truth is that they like fucking as much as single guys do. So much so at they have talked their partners into joining them. Couples just because you can't satisfy eachother sexually don't look down at confident singles guys that are willing and able to satisfy your partners. Also, i would llike to know the women's point of view. I bet they would love a confident guy pleasing them. Bet it is their under performing partner who cry foul play. Well done Aussiebuilder
Wow Finally a couple real guys that know how to satisfy our wives. Hey Guys we have gotton over our insecurities. Please prettty please cum and fuck us we are lost without you single guys showing us the way.
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.have u ever been in a chat room on this site mate,the cliuqe's are a here full on and so mean and nasty to single guy's on here is almost discrimation...
...the chat room's on here are just full of people who act liek 15 school girl's''oh they this and oh that single guy said this'' as for the single women on here might as well not be any as they never ever answer a thing that single guy's say on here...

So very wrong, buddy. So very very wrong. I spend more and more time in the chat room and always have a great time and a good laugh.
People who have taken the time to contribute positively, (and yes, for single guys it can take a little longer), who show a sense of humour, some restraint and some respect - become recognised and are welcomed and responded to.
Despite you constantly claiming that this site is simply so people can get a fuck - my experience is that the site is a whole lot more than that. It is where people with similar interests can hang out and talk shit, have a laugh, show off on cam - if they like that, or sit and watch others. Many single guys and girls are here for personal sexual gratification which does not mean hooking up with someone else. Same for couples. Some are here to please themselves, some are hear to meet others. Sometimes sex is involved, sometimes it's purely social.
The level of anger and hostility you continue to display ensures that no-one will go near you. Your abuse of the good members of this site, and the hard working moderators is offensive and disgusting. You state that others think they are better than you. Well here's a shocker - most of them ARE better than you. They have taken the time to build trust and respect - something you have not even attempted, in this forum.
This is a free site. Run by unpaid volunteers. If it doesn't meet your expectations, then please take your anger issues somewhere else. It isn't welcome. I thought you were leaving anyway. Clearly, the problem is you. Not the hundreds/thousands of other people here, who are happy with what the site provides.
If you are that desperate for sex, try a brothel. Actually, don't. They wouldn't put up with your abuse either.
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.have u ever been in a chat room on this site mate,the cliuqe's are a here full on and so mean and nasty to single guy's on here is almost discrimation...
...the chat room's on here are just full of people who act liek 15 school girl's''oh they this and oh that single guy said this'' as for the single women on here might as well not be any as they never ever answer a thing that single guy's say on here...

So very wrong, buddy. So very very wrong. I spend more and more time in the chat room and always have a great time and a good laugh.
People who have taken the time to contribute positively, (and yes, for single guys it can take a little longer), who show a sense of humour, some restraint and some respect - become recognised and are welcomed and responded to.
Despite you constantly claiming that this site is simply so people can get a fuck - my experience is that the site is a whole lot more than that. It is where people with similar interests can hang out and talk shit, have a laugh, show off on cam - if they like that, or sit and watch others. Many single guys and girls are here for personal sexual gratification which does not mean hooking up with someone else. Same for couples. Some are here to please themselves, some are hear to meet others. Sometimes sex is involved, sometimes it's purely social.
The level of anger and hostility you continue to display ensures that no-one will go near you. Your abuse of the good members of this site, and the hard working moderators is offensive and disgusting. You state that others think they are better than you. Well here's a shocker - most of them ARE better than you. They have taken the time to build trust and respect - something you have not even attempted, in this forum.
This is a free site. Run by unpaid volunteers. If it doesn't meet your expectations, then please take your anger issues somewhere else. It isn't welcome. I thought you were leaving anyway. Clearly, the problem is you. Not the hundreds/thousands of other people here, who are happy with what the site provides.
If you are that desperate for sex, try a brothel. Actually, don't. They wouldn't put up with your abuse either.
Here here MIB,
You hit the nail fair and squarely on the head...
I have been on the site for a couple of years now as a single male and have found acceptance and respect, I have never found anything like builder comments.
Swinging for a single huy is all about patience, respect, discretion, and manners at the least and builder is obviously lacking in many of these traits.
Well said MIB, single men can be decent people.
Cheers
Grumpster
Swinging is a lifestyle, yes some of involves lots of awesome sex with awesome people.... but most of it involves friendships and handholding smile If that isnt what you are looking for here - then by all means feel free to leave. If you cannot respect people who participate in this life style you will be removed. :) VoyeurCouple, OKandQ, Ou_est_leparty and MiB well done :giggle:
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Swinging is a lifestyle, yes some of involves lots of awesome sex with awesome people.... but most of it involves friendships and handholding smile
If that isnt what you are looking for here - then by all means feel free to leave.
If you cannot respect people who participate in this life style you will be removed.
:)
VoyeurCouple, OKandQ, Ou_est_leparty and MiB well done :giggle:

Sammi,
No has disrespected anyone.
Just because we don't agree with some of the things that were mentioned on this forum, it does not mean they we are disrespectful.
And you have confirmed perfectly what I mentioned earlier about couples "getting off their high horse" in the dictatorship style comment "you will be removed".
The day people start getting removed from this site because of some people inability to accept comment will be a sad day.
Sammi,
No has disrespected anyone.
Just because we don't agree with some of the things that were mentioned on this forum, it does not mean they we are disrespectful.
And you have confirmed perfectly what I mentioned earlier about couples "getting off their high horse" in the dictatorship style comment "you will be removed".
The day people start getting removed from this site because of some people inability to accept comment will be a sad day.

No but what you will be removed for is not listening to the direction of site moderators, and if this forum trolling continues accounts will be suspended. We do not expect everyone to agree with everything but what we wont accept is continual trolling to get a rise from everyone else. I do believe even in a democracy there is a limitation to free speach where it is becoming a public nucience so do not keep sprouting this crap about dictatorships you are full of it mate... either play the game or consider yourself gone
Consider this a final warning
BlokeyBloke
stating couples are snobs, cant satisfy each other, and having a go at their lifetsyle IS being disrespectful you can have an opinion without resorting to name calling and attacks Previous posts about this very subject have highlighted why some single males never get any luck and only disdain on here, and it is not because everyones in a clique its because the single males in question are disrespectful, abusive in nature and rude when you dont do want they want or expect you to do. These forums are great to have debates in, I love watching them BUT resorting to playground antics will result in a site moderator having to take action. No one gets removed from this site for simply having a different opinion.
its an opinion that is true and valid to you and what you know builder smile
hey aussiebuilder hun hope to see u at our next play party
others have opinions of you because of their personal correspondance with you - which they have stated in other threads. Sending abusive messages to people will never win you favours, doing the woe is me act wont work either. You have an invite to a play party so obviously your getting something... whats your problem?
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Aussiebuilder. Right on the money.
Couples just because you can't satisfy eachother sexually don't look down at confident singles guys that are willing and able to satisfy your partners.
Also, i would llike to know the women's point of view. I bet they would love a confident guy pleasing them. Bet it is their under performing partner who cry foul play.

As an FYI this couple can very well satisfy one another sexually and the reason we invite (please note the word invite) others into our play has nothing to do with inadequacy sexually, and everything to do with fun.
I can state now that yes, a confident male is a great experience to have for a lady or a male, but an overconfident cowboy is one of the biggest turn-off's short of std's and bad breath. You may feel that you can provide an experience to a lady that she has never had, and you may well be able to do that but by claiming such you are not going to get as many 'hits' as a guy who approaches with no claims. Basically, the old adage is most often true, in that he who says the most provides the least, so silence if often golden.
Personally for us, the 'holier than thou' attitude of people (male, female or couple) is a massive turn-off as no person can guarantee a 'superior' time to another when they do not know that person's likes, dislikes and nuances.
Seriously we hope you do one day find those people that you seek to show and produce your prowess of which you gloat and we hope they enjoy themselves as well so we wish you well.
Shebagaz