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farewell and good luck from TemptedTwo

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To all those who knew them or had chatted with or simply enjoyed reading their forum contributions , TemptedTwo have asked me to pass on their farewells ,good byes and to wish all good luck , it seems that they have earnt themselves a permanent ban from the site :sad: so sad to see a good genuine and often informative and hilarious couple go
I will miss their forum posts. They were always articulate and it was a pleasure to read what they had to say.
I always look forward to Tempted Two's postings. Measured, thoughtful and above all articulate. I never found them to be rude or aggressive, even if they were on a different wavelength in discussion on the odd topic or two. It would be interesting to find out the reason for their ban - presumably they breached some site terms and conditions. It would be interesting to find out how they did this, because the last conversation I saw from them was in discussion of the advantages and disadvantages of this site, proving their response and feedback. It's a worry to think that a poster may be permanently banned because they have made what appeared to be constructive criticism of the site.
never bite the hand that feeds you ms t ,,, that is precisely the reason I was given ,,,,for pointing out what they thought to be serious flaw in the sites security .
We agree. Tempted's always had interesting and articulate contributions to make in the forums. It's a shame to see someone's vengeance have them banned from the site, as they will be missed by all who enjoyed what they had to say, over the various array of matters they contributed their opinion to. We wish them all the best, and hope we see them at Saints some time. A & J
Quote by lonelydad
never bite the hand that feeds you ms t ,,,
that is precisely the reason I was given ,,,,for pointing out what they thought to be serious flaw in the sites security .

I'd love to make a comment on that, but I'm keeping my mouth shut just to be safe.
Interesting about TT's permenate ban from SH but the profile has not been removed from the site just made "this member is currently inactive" and thier posts still remain in the forums . Maybe SH dont want to remove banned members profiles as it would lower the amount of profiles on the site , bit of a double standard you would think ? TT did make some very good points in the forums and made good reading Melbcpl01
Quote by lonelydad
never bite the hand that feeds you ms t ,,,
that is precisely the reason I was given ,,,,for pointing out what they thought to be serious flaw in the sites security .

hmmm gonna miss TT's comments, IMO I think a life ban for basically pointing out and showing what they thought to a serious issue. Is just plain wrong.
Yes maybe they could have voiced their opinion and questions out of the public forum, but isn't that part of what a public forum is for ??
Was nothing to do with there comments and the profile still there because they were asked to contact admin to resolve the issue.
Well, while I have enjoyed TT's posts I think posting a pic of another member crossed the line. TT could have argued their point without doing so. We have pics on our profile for other members to look at. We would certainly not like our public pics displayed in a forum post without our permission or knowledge. To what purpose? Where does it all end? There was a recent post about women and big cocks. Does that mean it would be ok for everyone to trawl through members profiles and post pics of guys with big cocks without their permission? What about guys with below average size cocks. Would it be ok to post pics of them and open up the opportunity for derision in the forum. I could go on but I think I have made myself clear. No matter how popular you are as a forum contributor it does not give you the right to disrespect other members or disregard SH rules. Hope they resolve the issue and are reinstated. It really would be a shame to see them with a permanent ban. Mr T
Quote by blonde_nymph
Was nothing to do with there comments and the profile still there because they were asked to contact admin to resolve the issue.

Here's hoping that Admin have the voice of reason and reinstate their profile as I believe their points regarding profile security were valid.
Thanks for the news ld. Well one more reason not to log on. While not defending the reason for the ban (if it is), the loss of tt to this place is a tragedy. When you see all the little things that drive people away from this place, and the behaviour of many on this site, the loss of a genuine, intelligent and funny couple like tt is massive. One of the few parts of SH we enjoy is reading the forum of which tt have been a huge part. With them gone and the increasing annoying posts by a small number of foolish single males on the forum leaves little interest for us. Look at some of the clowns that post rude and obscene comments on profiles with no recourse. Please don't tell me to report it. This is something, as with other site issues, that requires action from the top. Why the hell should we need to report the bleeding obvious. I can think of one individual and I have lost count of how many time this same fool pops up on peoples profile with a stupid comment. I won't name names, and yes he is still here. One of the many unfortunately. As well as some of the issues raised on here by genuine people over the time we have been on this site without resolution. tt have been one of the best voices of reason for change, in general they do it in a polite and sometimes hilarious way. For one issue to lead to there ban is outrageous, if that is the case. Take away the time wasters, friend collectors, people that will never meet up, the list goes on, leaves a small group of genuine people that are the core of this site. TT were a part of that group. Imagine if we lost a GoodandGreedy , twonewbies, baycouple or lonelydad to name a few. What would be left ? Farewell tt and all the best. You will be sorely missed by us and a huge loss to this site. :sad: Mr B.
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Thanks for the news ld.
Well one more reason not to log on.
While not defending the reason for the ban (if it is), the loss of tt to this place is a tragedy.
When you see all the little things that drive people away from this place, and the behaviour of many on this site, the loss of a genuine, intelligent and funny couple like tt is massive. One of the few parts of SH we enjoy is reading the forum of which tt have been a huge part. With them gone and the increasing annoying posts by a small number of foolish single males on the forum leaves little interest for us. Look at some of the clowns that post rude and obscene comments on profiles with no recourse. Please don't tell me to report it. This is something, as with other site issues, that requires action from the top. Why the hell should we need to report the bleeding obvious. I can think of one individual and I have lost count of how many time this same fool pops up on peoples profile with a stupid comment. I won't name names, and yes he is still here. One of the many unfortunately. As well as some of the issues raised on here by genuine people over the time we have been on this site without resolution. tt have been one of the best voices of reason for change, in general they do it in a polite and sometimes hilarious way. For one issue to lead to there ban is outrageous, if that is the case. Take away the time wasters, friend collectors, people that will never meet up, the list goes on, leaves a small group of genuine people that are the core of this site. TT were a part of that group. Imagine if we lost a GoodandGreedy , twonewbies, baycouple or lonelydad to name a few. What would be left ?
Farewell tt and all the best.
You will be sorely missed by us and a huge loss to this site. :sad:
Mr B.

Very nicely said, Mr B
Awesome post Mr B and thank you for the compliment xx
Agree there Dad 100%. I thought a public forum was just that - a place to voice our views without fear of bring judged or banned.
TT's forums and comments were great and honest - gunna miss them big time!!!!!!
Quote by colandnic
never bite the hand that feeds you ms t ,,,
that is precisely the reason I was given ,,,,for pointing out what they thought to be serious flaw in the sites security .

hmmm gonna miss TT's comments, IMO I think a life ban for basically pointing out and showing what they thought to a serious issue. Is just plain wrong.
Yes maybe they could have voiced their opinion and questions out of the public forum, but isn't that part of what a public forum is for ??
Mrs T
Quote by taylah2805
Agree there Dad 100%. I thought a public forum was just that - a place to voice our views without fear of bring judged or banned.

Apparently not in a communist forum, Taylah...
Well said Mr B and thanks for your compliment, never considered ourselves in the same league as those mentioned. TT will be sadly missed. The Bays
Quote by blonde_nymph
Was nothing to do with there comments and the profile still there because they were asked to contact admin to resolve the issue.

I am a little bit nonplussed as to why people are continuing to state TT was banned because of their comments. Clearly it wasn't, as stated.
People need to calm down and look at this issue objectively before jumping to conclusions.
There's always two sides to a story.
Mr T
I started this thread as asked by TT as a way for them to say their good byes ...I was told by them they had received a permanent ban ,,,,if they were simply suspended pending verification as is normally the case ,I doubt there would be an issue ... if they simply need to contact admin to resolve a issue ,,why the ban ? why can't admin comtact them ? I can only relay what I am told by those affected ,,,not rumour Added The notice received stated 10 year ban. No warning. For the posting of a pic. No. Statement of which aup rule was broken. And after 2 days of having made contact with admin no reply as yet
Never always agreed .. but always enjoyed reading the comments ... better than the silence or meaningless banter that pervades in a lot of areas Will miss them
Quote by lonelydad
I started this thread as asked by TT as a way for them to say their good byes ...I was told by them they had received a permanent ban ,,,,if they were simply suspended pending verification as is normally the case ,I doubt there would be an issue ...
if they simply need to contact admin to resolve a issue ,,why the ban ? why can't admin comtact them ?
I can only relay what I am told by those affected ,,,not rumour
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The notice received stated 10 year ban. No warning. For the posting of a pic. No. Statement of which aup rule was broken. And after 2 days of having made contact with admin no reply as yet

That's not good
Mr t
Unfortunately, the AUP also says: "Swingers Heaven Australia have the right to withdraw membership without notice or explanation. Swingers Heaven Australia's decision on any matter set out in this AUP shall be final." So even if you want to sort it out with admin they still might not play ball.
ill miss tt and most of thier comments but they did break a rule and if it was the pic rule then they need to sort it out ,if they cant be bothered then its upto them. if you let one person do the wrong thing then you may as well get rid of all rules. got to look at both sides.
Quote by lonelydad
I started this thread as asked by TT as a way for them to say their good byes ...I was told by them they had received a permanent ban ,,,,if they were simply suspended pending verification as is normally the case ,I doubt there would be an issue ...
if they simply need to contact admin to resolve a issue ,,why the ban ? why can't admin comtact them ?
I can only relay what I am told by those affected ,,,not rumour
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The notice received stated 10 year ban. No warning. For the posting of a pic. No. Statement of which aup rule was broken. And after 2 days of having made contact with admin no reply as yet

http://www.swingersheaven.com.au/terms-and-conditions.html
You may not redistribute images, photos or any personal data that you have found, copied or downloaded from our website.
They broke this rule by posting roses picture. Simples.
Didn't tt say they got it from a google search, if so then it wasn't breaching that rule, just saying
Quote by kinkygalmelb
I started this thread as asked by TT as a way for them to say their good byes ...I was told by them they had received a permanent ban ,,,,if they were simply suspended pending verification as is normally the case ,I doubt there would be an issue ...
if they simply need to contact admin to resolve a issue ,,why the ban ? why can't admin comtact them ?
I can only relay what I am told by those affected ,,,not rumour
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The notice received stated 10 year ban. No warning. For the posting of a pic. No. Statement of which aup rule was broken. And after 2 days of having made contact with admin no reply as yet

http://www.swingersheaven.com.au/terms-and-conditions.html
You may not redistribute images, photos or any personal data that you have found, copied or downloaded from our website.
They broke this rule by posting roses picture. Simples.
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Didn't tt say they got it from a google search, if so then it wasn't breaching that rule, just saying

Agree wholeheartedly with you there, Coasties. They got it from Google, and were proving a point that our images are NOT secure. We are grateful for their revelation, as it means to us that we have done the right thing in only having one image that doesn't reveal our identity in public view.
The rule clearly states that pics, etc "...DOWNLOADED FROM OUR WEBSITE" are not to be redistributed. As the image provided in their illustration of the security flaw was sourced from Google, a public search engine (which any member of the public can do from any computer), and not this site, Tempted Two clearly did not break the rule referred to by previous members.
TT owns & operates his own web site, and the information he often provides here is useful to many of us.
The site owners should LEARN from this valiant example provided by TT, be grateful for it having been pointed out to them, and then do what they can to circumvent it, if that's possible - if not, make a statement that it isn't possible, so we all know as members that we are susceptible.
This was an opportunity to improve the site experience, but instead, the person offering the information got banned.
If Tempted Two had used one of their own images instead of the one they did, would they have been banned?
Of course not!
In my opinion, it's the particular image that they chose to use to illustrate the flaw that got them banned, and nothing more - in which case, a life ban is ridiculously excessive, when deleting the (apparently offensive) post and issuing a warning is more than adequate.
A
If having posted the said pic ,,whether it is deemed as against the rules or not ,, has been so offensive as to cause a ban ,, why has it still not been deleted as yet ? we often see things deleted from posts or ads that are said to breach rules .. so why not this ??
http://www.swingersheaven.com.au/terms-and-conditions.html
You may not redistribute images, photos or any personal data that you have found, copied or downloaded from our website.
They broke this rule by posting roses picture. Simples.
Totally agree with you, AJ.
I would read that rule to mean outside the Swingers Heaven site. The image was posted within the site to show how easy it is to access it from outside.
It's a shame that so many instances here seem to come from one person's interpretation. If you want to take this rule to the letter of the law then we could all get in trouble for mentioning someone's profile name or even a link in the website to internet instance outside of the site. Sounds ridiculous doesn't it?
Isn't it our responsibility as members (paying or not) to inform Admin of security breaches? I have informed them of a couple of instances and have never received a response, nor has it been fixed. So by TT posting this in the forum and bringing it everyone's attention they have been banned. Yes, I get that the above rule could be loosely applied to their actions but I think it's way over the top.
C'mon Admin how about some maturity here! Enough is enough!
TT never stated he got the pic via Google.
In TT's own words....
"A quick bit of googling suggests reputable sites like Google aren't indexing the profile images"
So where did TT obtain the pic. Until we know, if ever, people should stop making unfounded comments as to how they were obtained.
If anyone can find pics via search engines then I suggest that admin be notified immediately in an appropriate manner. Posting pics of other members in a public forum is not appropriate no matter how you couch your words or attempt to misinterpret the rules and conditions of this site.
Mr T