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We have just been through the most amazing experience in trying to find an honest single guy for a long term 3some arrangement. We met a fellow through this site and were very impressed by this person to the extent we invited him to join us for some fun at our home. The lies and deceit that we were given beggars belief - the long and short of it seems to be that there is no lengths to which some of these low lives will stoop to that will enable them to cheat on their wives, use other peoples names and persona to establish a false identity just to satisfy their sexual fantasies. What is of major concern is that if they are so capable of lying so easily to family and friends how can we have confidence in what they tell prospective swinging partners about STD's and the like. Please be warned that there are people like this out there, please do your homework and be very very careful or you could be getting or loosing more than you bargained for. wetwo4u
if they are from this site please forward their name on so others dont get lied to
Sammi you can boot him but you cannot stop him coming back. Perhaps this disscussion should be headed towards precautions when playing. We will start with a few of our rules when we occasionly look for a extra male, couples are really very similiar.: Honesty: If the contact starts as a couples profile then private disscussions lead towards 3 somes / open relations and its not in their profile then its off. He baited us with a couples profile and forget the b/s excuse he has not had time to modify his profile. We dont say the guys have to be single as long as they are honest we find out anything different to what they 1st told us its off. Photos so we can reconise in public Phone number we can call them and talk....not answer phones and text Any secretive / reluctance to answer questions ....forget it. Never play at home....4 star apartments with the guy contributing half the costs. Dinner 1st in a public place then tell the guy where the apartment is, so you have a escape plan. Man / man talk whats allowed whats not allowed and whats expected. The evening 7pm to middnight, no fuck and run Also, we have experianced some will expect oral and then sex with condoms and no oral in return, this way the guy is keeping himself as safe as he can, and exposing both of you to every STD /STI he may have. Tell him oral for the lady 1st and she might respond and then sex.
with epole who set out to deliberately deceive, threaten, harrass and stalk any of our members we remove them form the site and have steps in place to keep a watch in case they come back. If you find someone on this site who you think poses a threat to anyone in anyway (simple deceptions to outright stalking and abuse) PLEASE notify a moderator or admin asap. We take everything seriously and will follow up every complaint. Also remember if thngs become a clear danger to you, you can go to the police as well. As hotqld45 said above put steps in place to ensure your safety when meeting new people (this goes for ANYONE regardless of status, gender etc) Ask for recent current photos or cam Talk on the phone Meet in a public (safe) place If you can advise someone else of your plans so if anything happens someone is aware and can act. If something doesnt seem right, question it. If you are in anyway uncomfortable, speak up.
I've dealt with alleged couples only to turn out as gay or bi men. The items outlined above by the couples are paramount to your safety, not just sexually but physically. These sites have been used to lure people into a trap in order to extort or harm in another fashion. What i find interesting is that many of us here have met another at a club or bar and had sex without really knowing the other person. Its an inherent trust that neither of you have an STI. Knowing the persons name, family history etc is more about knowing the person as opposed to the sexual conduct. This appears to me as a comfort zone requirement as opposed to a requirement for sex. In saying that building trust only to have it broken by the person not stating their correct name is not relevant. Could they have lied about the STI ... yes/no. Either way after a meeting I'm always wondering what I'll catch hence regular checkups and blood tests. Someone can tell me their real name and number however numbers can be changed as well as profiles etc. Funnily enough its more a case of how much risk your willing to accept to fulfill your fantasy as it can never be nullified in full. You can lower this risk by "getting to know" someone however even if you've known them for years and feel as though they would not lie, its still a fabrication of your own making to make you feel better about a decision as opposed to an actual inability for that person to lie to you.
it takes one to ruin it for the rest
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it takes one to ruin it for the rest

We wished it was only one, but this site is rifled with people that do just that, lie to gain sex, nothing is too low and its a pity others do protect these types and defend them in the chatrooms.
Old tip but still a good one - get references from other couples on this site that you trust. It is a pretty simple fallback - a little like a job application or a club membership... Of course, if either you as a couple or your prospective single bedmate are new on this site and not well known it might not be as easy! Still, a good failsafe mechanism - no positive reference, no get together!
there is going to be a reputation system coming to the site soon called SHrep - it is a way for people to give a reference to others as deux has suggested
we now only meet ppl at a meet and greet or a party as that way we are in safe surroundings
hey all, just saw this post and found it very interesting.. i am married..but wife isnt interested in sex.... and we have decided to part company for other reasons... she didnt know about this part of me and would not be too interested or amused... we are just different people with different sex drives...anyway.. i have met a couple of people from this site.. and to be honest.. i use an internet name for initial contact .. email-phone-text..... etc... however i have allways been 100 percent honest in what i am, what im looking for and expect....upon any first face to face meet, i tell the person my real name, this makes it much easier...how can anyone have sex whilst being called steve if your name is david???... anyway.. the thing about std/sti... i do worry about it myself... i use condoms for any intercourse and would be VERY concerned about anyone who didnt want to, or make excuses about not using them...is it worth the risk??.. there are other potential sexual partners out there who will respect you and themselves enough to take care of our sexual health.. as far as im concerned.. no condom .. no sex... and then theres the issue with who has them.. ive heard of guys turning up at meets and expecting the couple or woman to have them....come on guys...just no respect as far as i can see.. as for oral sex.. i love it... i have been told im quite good at it... lol... anyway.. as long as they are clean and no funny smells... you know.. generally taken time and care to prepare for the meet then im very happy to have oral...give and take... i try to treat people they way i like to be treated myself... i think if you follow that rule then you cant really go wrong.. i like the references remark made by someone and also the feedback issue regarding meets.. all good as far as im concerned... im not sure if this helps, but maybe it gives an insight into how some if not all men behave...j
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hey all, just saw this post and found it very interesting.. i am married..but wife isnt interested in sex.... and we have decided to part company for other reasons... she didnt know about this part of me and would not be too interested or amused... we are just different people with different sex drives...anyway.. i have met a couple of people from this site.. and to be honest.. i use an internet name for initial contact .. email-phone-text..... etc... however i have allways been 100 percent honest in what i am, what im looking for and expect....upon any first face to face meet, i tell the person my real name, this makes it much easier...how can anyone have sex whilst being called steve if your name is david???...
anyway.. the thing about std/sti... i do worry about it myself... i use condoms for any intercourse and would be VERY concerned about anyone who didnt want to, or make excuses about not using them...is it worth the risk??.. there are other potential sexual partners out there who will respect you and themselves enough to take care of our sexual health.. as far as im concerned.. no condom .. no sex... and then theres the issue with who has them.. ive heard of guys turning up at meets and expecting the couple or woman to have them....come on guys...just no respect as far as i can see..
as for oral sex.. i love it... i have been told im quite good at it... lol... anyway.. as long as they are clean and no funny smells... you know.. generally taken time and care to prepare for the meet then im very happy to have oral...give and take... i try to treat people they way i like to be treated myself... i think if you follow that rule then you cant really go wrong..
i like the references remark made by someone and also the feedback issue regarding meets.. all good as far as im concerned... im not sure if this helps, but maybe it gives an insight into how some if not all men behave...j

Some very good points made here so had a look at your profile , is the lady in your photo your ex ? also noticed that pic of cock entering pussy with no condom and you say no condom no sex
Just a tip pics of you with another fem do nothing to attract other ladies or couples a full body shot and a clothed shot will help a lot more
Cheers Melbcpl01
this is pathetic im in a happy and commited relationship sharni is away this weekend and gave me the go ahead to have a play on my own but because of the desperate fools everytime i tell someone the story i get called to be a liar and a desperate single male..... is it really that bad out there as we have not experienced this first had we tend to play more with women. but have a few desperate idiots ruined it for everyone?
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hey all, just saw this post and found it very interesting.. i am married..but wife isnt interested in sex.... and we have decided to part company for other reasons... she didnt know about this part of me and would not be too interested or amused... we are just different people with different sex drives...anyway.. i have met a couple of people from this site.. and to be honest.. i use an internet name for initial contact .. email-phone-text..... etc... however i have allways been 100 percent honest in what i am, what im looking for and expect....upon any first face to face meet, i tell the person my real name, this makes it much easier...how can anyone have sex whilst being called steve if your name is david???...
anyway.. the thing about std/sti... i do worry about it myself... i use condoms for any intercourse and would be VERY concerned about anyone who didnt want to, or make excuses about not using them...is it worth the risk??.. there are other potential sexual partners out there who will respect you and themselves enough to take care of our sexual health.. as far as im concerned.. no condom .. no sex... and then theres the issue with who has them.. ive heard of guys turning up at meets and expecting the couple or woman to have them....come on guys...just no respect as far as i can see..
as for oral sex.. i love it... i have been told im quite good at it... lol... anyway.. as long as they are clean and no funny smells... you know.. generally taken time and care to prepare for the meet then im very happy to have oral...give and take... i try to treat people they way i like to be treated myself... i think if you follow that rule then you cant really go wrong..
i like the references remark made by someone and also the feedback issue regarding meets.. all good as far as im concerned... im not sure if this helps, but maybe it gives an insight into how some if not all men behave...j

Some very good points made here so had a look at your profile , is the lady in your photo your ex ? also noticed that pic of cock entering pussy with no condom and you say no condom no sex
Just a tip pics of you with another fem do nothing to attract other ladies or couples a full body shot and a clothed shot will help a lot more
Cheers Melbcpl01
thanks melbcpl01... yes indeed they are pix of my ex.. they will be removed.. and yes. no condom.. you are an eagle eyed one arent you..lol.. thankyou also for the tips.. i will take new pix and amend the ones i have....do you have any other comments on my profile??... every little bit helps..thnkyou james
Maybee there needs to be some kind of complaints to site moderators or similar. To remove anyone who receives three or more serious breeches of trust to other members, not just us single guys. I for one, would like to see some of the non-genuine people move on. I'm sure there are plenty of not so honest couples & single females out there as well. But we all have to live and learn. wink Rossco69.
Maybee there needs to be some kind of complaints to site moderators or similar. To remove anyone who receives three or more serious breeches of trust to other members, not just us single guys. I for one, would like to see some of the non-genuine people move on. I'm sure there are plenty of not so honest couples & single females out there as well. But we all have to live and learn. wink Rossco69.
I understand that a rating system called 'SHREP' is about to be implemented.
It looks like this:
http://www.swingingheaven.co.uk/shrep/Cubes/
This will help identify trusted, respected and genuine members.
I have been reading the comments with interest. Yes I ama single guy, and yes I do bring a nive bi female friend to playif we are both available, I just want people to know that I am not a time waster, I will turn up when I say I will, and if Jo or mel or both (haha) can come with me then thats great. But yes I do like to attend playing times alone too. Us single guys are not all bad, please dont tar us with the same brush. I am happy to give prospective playmates my correct mobile number, will answer calls or texts, and yes there are No pics on my profile. But there is a very good reason for that, no I am not hiding from my wife, girlfriend, partner or anything, but I need to be discrete for other reason which I have no problem discloing to people, just not for everyone on here. I hope peoplecan understand that. Chris! (yes my real name)
It's just as Chris said, for the genuine Single Men, but perseverance has its rewards.