Hi All,
Sadly, one in eight people in australia now have the herpes virus. In America it's one in five. There are approximately 47,000 people on this site - you do the sums. I read on the forum here of a couple who both got herpes from a swingers party. The cold sores on your mouth are virtually the same as the the cold sores you get elsewhere but for some reason the ones on your mouth are socially accepted but the other is not.. Probably all started with someone having oral sex with a blister on their lip! A large part of the population believe its a consequence of moral delinquency when in fact it only takes once with unprotected sex with someone who has herpes blisters present (which fortunately is not all the time). While herpes is not life threatening, its a pretty unpleasant thing to get. What does that mean to the people on here who are herpes sufferers when many enjoy the delights of cum - both male and female.
Do people lie? Do they just not mention it because it isn't present all the time? Do they just refrain from sexual activity when they know it is active. Or do they just up and disclose to all and sundry their little secret? Do we demand a current sexual health report for everying group/gangbang/swingers event or do we consider starting a swingers group exclusively for people who have it? What are your experiences & thoughts people - you can email me privately if you wish to stay anonymous. I will totally respect your privacy.
Dont you mean dont have sex? Codoms dont gaurantee pretection from the herpes virus.
Simple....No Sex
herpes can be cought even whilst wearing a condom
it is spread through skin to skin contact.
I'd like to think people could be honest enough to tell you the truth, but I accept some are not.
It is a risk you take.
I might add it can also survive on surfaces for a period of two hours... So yes, you really can catch it from a toliet seat...
If there are some swingers out there who are currently virus free and paranoid about it (I might add like myself) I recommend you see your GP about getting some of the drugs which REDUCE the changes of getting it (nothing can 100% protect you).
Damn cold sores! lol
I've known people with herpes - one caught it from someone who had never had an outbreak, in fact he only found out when she caught it from him that he even had herpes.
Also know others who have been upfront about it and only play when there is no outbreak (still a risk but its minimal), they are the type you want though because they are upfront about it and give you the choice to make the risk or not, rather than not giving you any choice at all.
As a rule it is super important for everyone having sex with others to have regular std/sti checks.
Watching the telly last night, I think today tonight, there was a woman who contracted herpes on her finger from getting her nails done. Go figure. Apparently herpes can appear anywhere on the body and so I agree, some folks may not even know they have it or mistake it for something else. What I did understand is that those that do know they have cold sores/herpes feel a great deal of embarassment, shame and guilt, not to mention a fear of rejection due to the dis-placed moral attachment society puts on STD's STI's. These folks did not contract this virus on purpose. Its a consequence of intimate contact but as we discovered last night - not necessarily so. No sex for herpes sufferers - you have got to be kidding me. Lets just gas them and be done with it. Personally I think that if you enjoy sex and this lifestyle, one has to accept that there is a risk that comes with it. We know condoms are not a gaurantee.
Cumdelights, You have missed our sence of humour "No sex" was in responce to the previous poster saying just wear condoms.
My understanding the herpes virus and warts there are heaps of different stains and all very closely related. Some are from / and/ or/ maybe / no sexual contact and others are, could be, maybe, yes, no.
Surely the serious solution is to visit your local sex clinic every 3 to 12 months for checking and educating on these matters, if you are having sex with multiple partners regardless of condoms even if you have zero syptoms.
Every swinger does this, Dont they?
No Sex refers to everyone if you want safe sex....hehehe bit of a contradiction.
with both herpes and warts there is the normal kind and the genital kind - gagless put up a good link to more information about the simplex 1 and 2 herpes viruses.
both can appear anywhere tho the normal kind tends to stay away form the genitals whilst the genital kind can appear pretty much anywhere.
normal kind is socially ok, common to get as a child originally, outbreaks not as severe and easily treatable with over the counter medications. The genital kind is the one that causes a bit more strife. Treatable still, though the outbreaks tend to be more severe if you get them, no over the counter remedies script only.
Both types of virus for both herpes and warts are with you for life.
Going on with the warts - if you have had warts (normal or genital) and you are a woman, research states you are at a greater risk of cervical cancer and the vaccine they brought out wont do anything for you.
A few of you have written that you would like to think people would be honest enought to tell you. I am now pondering if anyone in swingers has actually had someone disclose to them they have the herpes virus?
I think, swingers will not play if they are infectous, for example out break of cold sores on the lips.
The general acceptance to shave boys and girls help as well, as lice / crabs likes hair. Also any sores are readily visible and not hidden by hair.
There is no way anyone is going to tell you they have a STD, they simply wont play. Appears to go back to monitoring at a sex clinic as they will find things that have no syptoms and treat.
Unfortunately we get the impression, if you mention sex clinics some think you are big time swingers and give you a miss, where the opposite could be the case....play rarely and want to remain in good health.
Hi comdelights, I read your topic with interest, you do know what your talking about, I work with this on a day by day base's with my line of work....... 12 Replies? - 286 Views???? Yes cumdelights I agree "do the sums"...... 286 lookers do you not have a comment?
Guys really, be discerning with your playmates. If you have concern's re their health status, then don't.
The previous posting titled F.E.A.R talks about archaic attitudes and the need for education to effect understanding & change on beliefs. (If you have "concerns" about someones health - then don't.) "Concerns" usually involve sussing out nice folks, from well, the creepy ones and has nothing to do with physical health. I can guarantee most people who who have STD's are nice and didnt exactly put their hand up and say; "Hey could I please have a dose of an incurable disease". These postings are about helping people, encouraging a positive environment which allows persons to feel safe enough to talk about their experiences and share. Mis-placed moral, holier than thou attitudes such as yours help us understand that challenging belief systems and education on these matters is so absolutely necessary. Cynics have a place too, thanks for the post.
I'm really surprised that no one has mentioned using dental dams to combat/ reduce the risk of getting herpes. I do agree with Hotqld45 that getting tested regularly and being your own advocate is a responsible thing to do.
I find this topic rather with ppl on this site. Interesting topic and perhaps people need to read this again - thanks for bringing this up again a friendly reminder to ppl to get tested regularly and stay safe - its a lifestyle you choose but any illness you don't.
HI People what we do we must own. I have worked in the sex industry (hetro). I would get full bloods done every 3 months and a full check. Then i got married. for three years I had checkups and bloods done every 6months. Things can be in your system for a long time and tour body can combat it. Then if you get ill or have contact with a stronger bug of the same strain you may them produce symtoms. I play still and realy enjoy meeting new people and ask myself is it worth it? Yes it is and I take care of what im doing and don't play drunk. I watched a gangbang on the weekend This girl had at least 7 guys cum on her. the guys would play with her then walk up and play with other ladies in the room. Im all for getting freaky but people WE need to raise the bar on hygine.
I also limit the duration of contacts so if somthing does present, I can track it back to a possible source.
Dave