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BumpNGrind6970
Over 90 days ago
Straight Male, 55
Bisexual Female, 54
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Quote by williek
Tempted, you are wrong. This is as real as agoraphobia or anxiety states - just not as "common".
Bossman, as long as all participants are, as Tempted says, "consenting adults"' go for it.

Have to admit I read this as well and I tend to agree with Tempted. Not arguing that it isn't real either. We tend to play dress ups as school girls etc. when we go to parties, may even play the role to some extent, but this seems like it is on a whole other level. Each to their own but still this kind of weird me out reading it. Just comes across as going through the motions of a fantasy but having adults play the role.
If all negative connotations are removed from the word, a 'slut' is simply a person, most often a woman, who has had sex with multiple partners. Unfortunately we slam down women who dress promiscuously, are sexually aggressive and/or unabashedly lay claim to their own sexuality. Some of us embrace the word slut. Some don't. Can calling a woman a 'Prude' be just as terrible as calling her a 'Slut'? Not drawing attention away from the word 'Slut' but being called a 'Prude' also creates another demoralising pejorative that is meant to make a woman think about her behaviour. Damned if you do, damn if you don't! Some single guys have called Mrs Bay a 'prude' for not showing enough skin on cam. There shouldn't be derogatory terms to describe women's sexual behaviour and reclaiming the word 'Slut' is almost like willingly accepting blame for a crime you didn't commit, or rather for doing something that shouldn't be a crime in the first place. Mrs Bay is sexually aggressive (perhaps it is the red hair) and is unbashful/unashamed about her sexual promiscuity, being called a 'Slut' has no negative connotation but rather a right of passage. Although she is accepting of the term, I am of the opinion that there is a time and place, but more importantly how it is delivered i.e. I am not kosher with single males or people who we do not know calling Mrs Bay a 'Slut'.
Quote by sunnysidedwn11
Thanks Ms Twiddle
Thanks for taking the time to reply and explaining your experience.
I should point out this is Mrs Sunny.
Mr Sunny does not know yet I am leaving it a surprise hopefully he will not look on here before then
Respect is the key as this will be my first time going the whole way with another lady
Have played with the occasional boob thou haha
Xoxoxo
Sunny

Awesome Mrs Sunny, you are doing well just to find a female to joining you in a FMF. Mrs Bay has tried to organise one for Mr Bay for several years, but sadly it has allured her to find a willing Bi female to join us. I think that finding a willing female is 99% of the battle, the rest I imagine will just flow. Hope you guys have a wonderful time.
The Bays
Muffins You are so on the money. We wouldn't mind a single guy from time to time for Mrs Bay, but their attitude makes them so undesirable. A married female friend of ours recently got a message off a single guy the other day, stating he will be the best sex she will ever have. Seriously WTF, talk about a stupid comment. Obviously that single male got told to F off. We have been to a few meet and greets and yes rarely see single males there, at best maybe a couple. The Bays
Quote by seafordcouple
Enjoying the read of this thread so far.
This is what we've observed so far in our travels:
The parties we have attended - where single guys have been allowed (some of the guys are upfront that they aren't single and that their male or female partner is aware of them attending); where there are couples only (it seems to be more of an occurrence where the "couple" are actually fuck buddies and they are actually in a relationship with someone else.
Meeting "swinger couples" - again for some reason lately 7/10 the couples aren't real couples but actually fuck buddies who are cheating on their partners.
The issue we have is a lot of these couples are in the category of protection - if required
We'd love to hear your thoughts on all of this.
Do any of you remember the grim reaper advert during the AIDs/HIV epidemic?

We don't play with Single (married) guys or girls for one main reason we don't want to get caught up in the fallout should it go south. Believe me it does happen.
As a couple this is the way we look at it; how can a person say they are trustworthy if they are cheating behind their partners back, they simply contradict themselves in that statement. They say they love their partner, yet they their actions say otherwise (their partner is oblivious to what is going on behind their back). We recently met a guy who said he was separated but getting back together in 6 months, he was still living with his wife and kids, still going shopping like one big happy family, she has no idea he is out fucking other women, she takes great pride in her home and looking after the kids, thinking they have this perfect marriage all the while he is being selfish. Now if by chance she found out (got a hold of his phone perhaps) he was having an affair what would she do? Would she could confront those girls or she could just do nothing. What I am trying to say is you just don't know and believe us we don't want the guilt that we were in some way responsible for a marriage/relationship breaking up.
Again before we are smashed by single married guys for having an opinion or moral standing on the issue. At the end of the day, people will still meet married singles providing it is discreet and that's awesome, it comes down to choice, just not what we are looking for on this site. We are happy to talk to married single people, even happy to socialise with them, just not play with them, but in no way do we condemn them.
Seafordcouple, what issue about couples that are in the category of protection - if required would you like to discuss? Are you stating that all couples should use protection regardless because of the risks of AIDs/HIV? Are you alluding to the fact you will not play with couples that are 'if require' attitude to safe sex? In our opinion, despite the risks, it still comes down to choice, as long as people are upfront about it then at least all parties are aware of the risks and subsequently make a choice as to whether to proceed or not. For the most part, I believe most people are not naïve to the risks of AIDs/HIV, including other STIs like Chalmydia (which happens to be more common within the younger generation). I would probably assume they are selective with whom they have unprotected sex, probably get to know the person/s first, perhaps a little about their sexual history, do they get regular check ups etc. They may even become exclusive with another couple. There are so many facets as to why couples choose 'if require' to the use of condoms.
Confucius say: Do not impose on others what you yourself do not desire.
Quote by TemptedTwo
We were looking over some couple profiles tonight and it always amazes us how so many couples only have photos of the woman. Why is that? Is your man hideously ugly? Or are you only seeking to attract extra guys, or women for FF-only play? If we're looking for another couple we do like to get some idea of what BOTH partners look like.
If you are a couple with only female photos on your profile, we'd love it if you would reply here and tell us why. We'd like to understand your perspective.
Of course, then there are a few that only have pictures of the male (typically selfie cock shots), and for these we usually assume there isn't really a female or that she isn't involved in/aware of hubby looking for extras.

TT, Mr Bay here, I am told I scare people (so I have been told according to one cam watcher) hence why my pic isn't in the public gallery. Pics are great but we find pics don't do people justice, so we prefer to meet people in person.
Welcome back to the 'Forums' and glad the ban was overturned. I can't imagine the amount of frustration you guys would have felt watching from the sideline. It is admirable to see that you guys invest so much of your time and the impression that I get is that you truly support this site; if you didn't then you would say nothing, do nothing or just use move on. The Bays
TT has highlight an issue that I wasn't aware of and certainly a matter of concern from my point of view. I also performed the same check and was surprised as to how much I could access and view using Google. Although I enjoy using this site, I am not particularly comfortable with the general public having that sort of access. Perhaps there is a simple solution to remedy the problem. Well I hope TT does sort out the matter with SH Admin, as I would like to see them back in the forum space as I sincerely believe their action was unintentional. I could have made the same mistake and I deal with writing and interpreting policy from other agencies for most of my working life of 25 years.
Quote by premier
Has anyone camped at Samurai beach camping ground? How do you make a booking, what facilities are there etc. I am thinking of taking a drive and checking out the beach and doing some 4wding, and surfing.

Don't quote me on this but we were informed by a friend that camping there is free, basically find a spot and you are good to go. The only caveats are that you must take away your own waste and consider there are no toilets you may want to bring your own toilet/chemical toilet. You are not allowed to dig your own shitters.
Quote by premier
Has anyone camped at Samurai beach camping ground? How do you make a booking, what facilities are there etc. I am thinking of taking a drive and checking out the beach and doing some 4wding, and surfing.

Don't quote me on this but we were informed by a friend that camping there is free, basically find a spot and you are good to go. The only caveats are that you must take away your own waste and consider there are no toilets you may want to bring your own toilet/chemical toilet. You are not allowed to dig your own shitters.
Well said Mr B and thanks for your compliment, never considered ourselves in the same league as those mentioned. TT will be sadly missed. The Bays
Thanks Onewetpusssy for the Meet and Greet, it was a good turn out once again. Love meeting new people and great to see old faces there again. Perhaps we wont wait for almost 12 months to have another one. If anyone wants to contact us send us a message, will be great to hear from you. The Bays xxxx
Rose, when 'Extras" was I think around $34 from memory, then around $49. Ours is due to run out sometime soon, are we to pay more again? We heard there is an increase in fees again.
Admin, with the price increase are members going to see some improvements to the profile information? Understand, it is the member's responsibility to populate their profile with information about themselves and for whom they seek, but the profile layout currently doesn't encourage those to do so. I am only speaking for myself here (but others may have similar view), we would like to see changes to profile formats that enables us to apply more filters to our search i.e. smokers or non-smokers, safe sex or not, body type etc. At the end of the day it saves us time searching for what we seek and taking a leaf out of RHP and AMM's book, both sites have made it easy to read and search profiles. Another suggestion would be a warning to those who are messaging or contacting other members not in their criteria (think TemptedTwo brought this up), it wont necessarily stop them from sending a message but at least it will make them think first. Quite happy with the Chat rooms and forums, I think in comparison with other sites like RHP and AMM this site is more user friendly. Although members may be upset about the price increase, I think if this was to enable improvements to the site then I am all for it. We closed our account with RHP 12 months ago after being on the site for several years. Our reason to leave was based because they increased costs and gave the members less in return. It will be a shame if Swingers Heaven went down the same path. On other sites the single men out number couples approx. 4-to-1 and single girls approx. 7-to-1. What I would hate to see is couples leaving this site purely because of the price increase. Speaking for myself but I would say most couples on here are seeking other couples or single girls, with a small percentage seeking single males. If in fact single males are the major contributors to this site, would this site be less attractive to them if there were less couples as members? It is unbelievably frustrating to find and meet genuine couples or single females, if more couples left, then it will simply make the 'unbelievably frustrating' even more like the impossible. In summing up, we are happy with the price increase providing it is value for money, something that we didn't feel when we left another site. The Bays
Quote by Usforfun
Yes I need a shove to make the photos happen, and its a couples profile but its also two individuals that like each other to pursue their own adventures not two sad people making the rules for the partnership so both are tied to the bedpost unable to move without approval from the other. You may not understand this sort of relationship if you are committed to living in a conservative world.

Ha ha ha nothing conservative about the relationship we are in and we hardly think we are sad lol . Rules or boundaries are great for couples finding their way within the lifestyle, as they grow more secure or confident in their relationship their rules or boundaries may expand. It's great that some couples don't need rules and are able to do what they like when they like but its not for everyone.
Hope you find what you are looking for.......
Quote by Usforfun
Small problem today. The bananas I brought for sexual comfort yesterday I ate for lunch then after that I chopped the big zucchini into a stir fry last night, so I was left with nothing in the fridge to satisfy. I need to head to produce market tomorrow and buy something to take some horny photos with, perhaps a corn cum?

Try a bitter Melon!!!
Quote by ozdude
In defence of 'single' guys, my missus and I have met quite a few and they have nearly always been polite respectful and horny. After all, we are on a swinger site, and looking to meet and possibly play with others,whether they are single, married, a couple, a group, unaccompanied or whatever.
I'm a bit mystified about the negativity and labelling directed towards guys who look at women who cam. After all, would you still cam if no-one watched?
Some of the opening lines, and whispers are groan-worthy but if we wanted vanilla chat, we'd go elsewhere. And while I'm having a rant; guys on cam, whether profiled as single or a couple are as deserving of courtesy as women camming. If one doesn't want to watch, look elsewhere. After all, it's only cyberspace lol
Cheers, ozdude

Ozdude, nothing against single guys who do the right thing, its the ones who are so disrespectful when a female gets on cam. Yes it is true it is a swingers site but surely that doesn't mean you can act like a total tool towards the cammer. Vanilla chat or not it shouldn't include abusive comments.
Leslie, we no longer attend parties that offer entry to single guys for the reasons you have mentioned. The party organisers are simply in it for the money and nothing else. There is no magic ratio and I doubt very much most organisers actually screen the single guys before taking their cash. What we have experienced, seen and heard has been utterly disgraceful. To be fair not all single guys behave like pigs, unfortunately more often and not you are just collateral damage. I like the idea of a chatroom having an option to block single guys from viewing and perhaps they may have to earn the trust/respect of the cammer before they are granted access to view their cam. It seems we may need to treat them as children if they are going to act like them.
Quote by mr_twonewbies
we call them seagulls, they act exactly the same. a woman comes in and they all hang around, show a morsel and off they go. it used to be funny but now mrs two is sick of it and hasnt been on cam now for months.
think about your behaviour men but use the correct head.

Not that we expect most single guys to read this thread as we have concluded most of them cannot read. Mrs Bay is reluctant to get on cam for the same reason. The constant crude requests from single guys and lack of respect has really soured the joy of getting on cam. They are a naissance on chat and simply degrade the integrity of the site with their behaviour. Sadly this site isn't exempted from the scourge of the Neanderthal like behaviour often witnessed on chat.
Maverick, perhaps you weren't praised enough as a child? Perhaps your low self-esteem striving for praise from the outside world, in order to gain a feeling of worth within yourself. I am sure there are people that can help find self worth without seeking it from the outside world. Found an awesome link about how to detect arrogant people I am sorry but if you want praise because you think you are the Greek god Adonis then you have come to the wrong place.
Quote by wewannadou
We cant make it but i can bump the thread for you guys..
I hope it all goes well.

Wewanna there will be a next time for sure
TemptedTwo I LOVE it, well said!!!! And the winner in the left corner wearing green trunks is TT and the crowd goes wild. lol :lol: :lol:
Same can be said about Meet and Greets or even parties. People tell you they are interested in coming and then hear nothing from them. The Meet and Greet I organised in Newcastle last year was a classic. Most who said they were coming, confirmed as such, but there was the minority that waste my time and effort with me constantly chasing them up (often several messages before get a reply). Hence the reason why I am a little reluctant to do it again. I am sure people who organise parties on a regular basis experience this and I can understand why they get shitty. If people cannot show a little common curiosity by a simple reply i.e. no thanks then perhaps we should drop a little comment on their profile. As for people who contact people who aren't looking for them, well that just tells me you can't read and should not expect a response.
Quote by googlebum
Hey guys we are kid free tonight and horny as hell. Anyone from Newcastle under 40 interested in some fun tonight? Message us privately for a reply. We can host in Raymond terrace.

Oh bummer over 40 :sad:
Quote by spinifex
we would be very interested if we organise a baby sitter

Sweet it will be awesome to see you guys. Mrs Bay knows of a 50yr old babysitter if you get stuck.
[quote="cuddlycouple66"]shame its not in early febuary[/quote That's a shame guys, will let you know if our friends have another party in Feb.
Quote by leanne
hi who is having it we could be interested

The couple hosting it isn't on this site, they are fairly new to the scene and never had a party before. Happy to give you further details if you want.